{"id":13198,"date":"2023-04-24T16:19:14","date_gmt":"2023-04-24T07:19:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/toranomon-ls.com\/?p=13198"},"modified":"2024-05-13T15:20:06","modified_gmt":"2024-05-13T06:20:06","slug":"mastering-the-subtleties-of-wakarimasen-%e3%82%8f%e3%81%8b%e3%82%8a%e3%81%be%e3%81%9b%e3%82%93-and-shirimasen-%e3%81%97%e3%82%8a%e3%81%be%e3%81%9b%e3%82%93","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/toranomon-ls.com\/ja\/mastering-the-subtleties-of-wakarimasen-%e3%82%8f%e3%81%8b%e3%82%8a%e3%81%be%e3%81%9b%e3%82%93-and-shirimasen-%e3%81%97%e3%82%8a%e3%81%be%e3%81%9b%e3%82%93\/","title":{"rendered":"Mastering the Subtleties of Wakarimasen (\u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) and Shirimasen (\u3057\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When you start learning Japanese, you learn one word for everything. Everything is &#8220;tanoshii&#8221;, or &#8220;muzukashii&#8221;.. but eventually you expand your vocabulary, and learn many words that mean the same thing, just like in English &#8211; fun, enjoyable, pleasurable, and so on. How do you know when to use what? Context is everything. As you become more proficient in the language, you&#8217;ll likely come across nuances and subtleties that can significantly impact your communication. One such example is the distinction between &#8220;wakarimasen&#8221; (\u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) and &#8220;shirimasen&#8221; (\u3057\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093), both of which can translate to &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; in English. However, they are used in different contexts and carry distinct connotations. This is how to use wakarimasen and shirimasen in Japanese.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Where did these words come from?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The roots of wakarimasen (\u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) and shirimasen (\u3057\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) can be traced back to classical Japanese. Wakarimasen is derived from the verb &#8220;wakaru&#8221; (\u5206\u304b\u308b), which means &#8220;to understand,&#8221; while shirimasen comes from &#8220;shiru&#8221; (\u77e5\u308b), which means &#8220;to know.&#8221; The &#8220;-masen&#8221; (\u307e\u305b\u3093) ending in both phrases is a polite negation, indicating that the speaker does not understand or know something.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Understanding the Differences<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Wakarimasen (\u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) is used when you don&#8217;t understand something, or the topic is beyond your current knowledge or capabilities. It implies that you&#8217;ve given some thought to the question or problem but couldn&#8217;t find the answer. This phrase is more suitable when you&#8217;re discussing abstract concepts, complex ideas, or personal feelings. It&#8217;s probably what you&#8217;ll learn first, so you&#8217;ll be used to frantically saying &#8220;wakarimasen!&#8221; while trying to speak over the phone!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand, shirimasen (\u3057\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) is employed when you don&#8217;t possess the specific knowledge or information someone is seeking. It is more appropriate when discussing facts, data, or concrete details. However, using shirimasen in certain situations may come across as cold, indifferent, or dismissive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Examples and Usage<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Let&#8217;s look at some examples to better understand when to use wakarimasen and shirimasen:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u4eca\u5ea6\u306e\u9031\u672b\u3001\u6771\u4eac\u306b\u884c\u304f\u4e88\u5b9a\u3067\u3059\u304b\uff1f(\u3053\u3093\u3069\u306e\u3057\u3085\u3046\u307e\u3064\u3001\u3068\u3046\u304d\u3087\u3046\u306b\u3044\u304f\u3088\u3066\u3044\u3067\u3059\u304b\uff1f)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Are you planning to go to Tokyo this coming weekend?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Inappropriate: \u3057\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Shirimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Appropriate: \u307e\u3060\u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Mada wakarimasen &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure yet.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>In this example, you&#8217;re discussing your plans, which requires a more personal and thoughtful response. Using shirimasen would be inappropriate, as it might imply indifference or a lack of interest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u6700\u8fd1\u3001\u9234\u6728\u3055\u3093\u306f\u3069\u3046\u3057\u3066\u3044\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f(\u3055\u3044\u304d\u3093\u3001\u3059\u305a\u304d\u3055\u3093\u306f\u3069\u3046\u3057\u3066\u3044\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How has Suzuki-san been doing lately?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Inappropriate: \u3057\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Shirimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Appropriate: \u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Wakarimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>In this case, the question is about someone&#8217;s well-being. Responding with shirimasen might come across as cold or uncaring, whereas wakarimasen conveys empathy and concern.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u6628\u65e5\u306e\u4f1a\u8b70\u306e\u8b70\u984c\u3001\u899a\u3048\u3066\u3044\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f(\u304d\u306e\u3046\u306e\u304b\u3044\u304e\u306e\u304e\u3060\u3044\u3001\u304a\u307c\u3048\u3066\u3044\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do you remember the topics discussed in yesterday&#8217;s meeting?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Appropriate: \u77e5\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Shirimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alternative: \u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Wakarimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>In this scenario, the question is about specific information related to the meeting. Both shirimasen and wakarimasen can be used, but shirimasen is more suitable, as it directly addresses the lack of knowledge. However, if you want to convey that you gave it some thought but can&#8217;t recall the details, wakarimasen would also be acceptable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u3042\u306e\u6620\u753b\u306e\u30bf\u30a4\u30c8\u30eb\u3001\u601d\u3044\u51fa\u305b\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f(\u3042\u306e\u3048\u3044\u304c\u306e\u305f\u3044\u3068\u308b\u3001\u304a\u3082\u3044\u3060\u305b\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can you recall the title of that movie?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Appropriate: \u77e5\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Shirimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alternative: \u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Wakarimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>In this example, the question is about a specific piece of information &#8211; the movie title. Shirimasen is the most fitting response if you don&#8217;t know the answer. However, wakarimasen can also be used to imply that you tried to remember but couldn&#8217;t come up with the title.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u5f7c\u5973\u304c\u3069\u3046\u3057\u3066\u6012\u3063\u3066\u3044\u308b\u306e\u304b\u5206\u304b\u308a\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f(\u304b\u306e\u3058\u3087\u304c\u3069\u3046\u3057\u3066\u304a\u3053\u3063\u3066\u3044\u308b\u306e\u304b\u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u3059\u304b\uff1f)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do you know why she is angry?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Inappropriate: \u77e5\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Shirimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Appropriate: \u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093 (Wakarimasen)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The question asks for your understanding of someone&#8217;s emotions. Using shirimasen would sound too detached, while wakarimasen is more suitable, as it indicates that you&#8217;ve considered the situation but can&#8217;t figure out the reason for her anger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Informal Forms<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>When speaking casually, you can use the informal forms of these phrases: \u77e5\u3089\u306a\u3044 (shiranai) and \u308f\u304b\u3089\u306a\u3044 (wakaranai). Both can be used in a wider range of situations, but it&#8217;s essential to be mindful of the context and the relationship you have with the person you&#8217;re speaking with to ensure you don&#8217;t come across as rude or dismissive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The subtle differences between wakarimasen (\u308f\u304b\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) and shirimasen (\u3057\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093) may seem confusing at first, but with practice and attention to context, you&#8217;ll soon master the art of using these phrases effectively. By understanding when to use each expression and considering the nuances, you&#8217;ll be able to communicate more naturally and empathetically in Japanese. Keep practicing, and if you have idea, use wakarimasen to be safe! 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